Exploring Beyond the Illusion - The New Book

This podcast series explores the 'before psychology' game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.
This episode we talk to regular contributor and friend of the show Katrijn Van Oudheusden on the day her new book is launched - Beyond Illusion: Exploring the Six Illusions that Cause Our Mistaken Belief in a Separate Self.' This is Katrijn's second book, and it lays down the foundation to exploring the illusion we are all innocently hoodwinked by - that we are a separate self. This book pieces together with insights from neuroscience and philosophy evidence that both directly and indirectly points us to recognise the true nature of what we are, and consciousness as the fabric of reality itself.
 
Our discussion covers:
- How come the second book is really the first book - foundations .v. implications
- How the book is aimed at those people with an inkling there must be a different way seeing the world and operating
- The relevance in today's world of need to point to something to 'keep the conceptual mind happy' before people will fall awake to something more 'spiritual'
- A brief explanation of the 6 illusions - and how they progress from most accessible to recognise to more hidden and harder to realise
- The relevance of chapter 7 - introducing the importance step of actual inquiring into this directly and for yourself
- What could happen if you read this book - the start of your journey
 
Curious - want to know more?
Buy the book here
You can find out more about Katrijn on LinkedIn here and her website  here
Find out more about Quality of Mind
If you want to experience more check out Piers and Katrijn's  new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
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Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

A 5 min Snippet: ’How did I get here? Brief Overview of the path to Before Psychology

From the QUALITY OF MIND Podcast
 
Part of our new 'Not Even 5 Mins Series'  -
 
Ep8: ''How did I get here? Brief Overview of the path to Before Psychology"
 
Piers Thurston - Founder of Quality of Mind, describes his own path of coming to see that Before Psychology is the most important leverage point for us to have more performance, peace and potential 
Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!
 
Curious - want to know more?
Check out our other podcast episodes; a curated list here
Watch past clients talk about the power of Quality of Mind here
For a more in depth looking into the nondual understanding behind Quality of Mind  listen here  or here
Find out more about the relevance of Quality of Mind  
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Mark Lund - President of McCann World Group UK and Europe, talks about the benefits and Nature of Quality of Mind

’’Grounding Breaking’’ What a future focused marketer heard about Quality of Mind...

This podcast series explores the 'before psychology' game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.
This episode is taken from an interview on the Future Fuzz podcast. Justin Campbell is a digital marketing expert who educates and inspires people on the best way to stay relevant and futureproof on their marketing and e-commerce campaigns . The episode serves as useful relevant introduction to Quality of Mind, as Justin had listened to one episode from the QoM podcast, and thought it was fascinating and wanted to know more...
 
The discussion covers:
- Do we loose connection compared to when we were babies?
- How the appearance that we are a separate limited self arises and causes our suffering
- How we are all the same, but that doesn't mean we have to condone all behaviours 
- How to use feelings to our advantage  -what is going on?
- What does this understanding mean for contemporary societal issues, like mental health or dementia 
- An example of how low Quality of Mind might turn up in a meeting at work
- What is the approach for Quality of Mind in businesses? Going from upstream 'before psychology' self inquiry, to day to day business relevance
- The most common comment people make - 'I wish I had seen this before' - how this understanding gets better the more and more you see it! 
 
Curious - want to know more?
The Future Fuzz podcast that Justin has created.
Justin Campbell Linkedin Profile
Find out more about Quality of Mind   
If you want to know more about 'becoming awake' check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts
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What is available? Infinite creativity, leadership and running as an elephant

This podcast series explores the 'before psychology' game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.
This episode is a conversation with Craig Wilmann, a business leader and content creator, who experienced a transformative shift in his understanding of the mind. He shares his journey and the benefits he now enjoys in all aspects of work and life. 
The discussion covers:
- The difference this understanding can make for Leadership
- How Craig first experience non duality during a burnout episode 
- What is it that we are pointing to?  How does it feel?  What is behind the personal mind?
- The simple yet profound nature of just being in life and sensing it, without the narrative of being a self.
- The inspiration, creativity and confidence to create and publish a short story every week for a year! 
-  The relevance for the workplace; contrived versus emergent leadership
- How this understanding helps any area of life and work, including running marathons dress as an elephant😁
 
Curious - want to know more?
The highly recommended Meaningless Problems podcast that Craig has created. Subscribe now wherever you get your podcasts to help him hit his charitable goal. Note: Craig's writing pseudonym is Doe Wilmann 
The Leaders Council  that Craig is Executive Director of. His Linkedin Profile
Find out more about Quality of Mind   
If you want to know more about 'becoming awake' check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts
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Do we need to be ’awake’ to have an ’enlightened’ life? What do those words even mean?

This podcast series explores the 'before psychology' game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.
This episode is a conversation with Helen Amery, a fellow coach of the understanding behind Quality of Mind, who poses an excellent exploration, the difference between being 'awake' and having an 'enlightened life'.  Do we need to be 'awake' to have an enlightened life?  What do those words even mean? Explore with us on this episode...
The discussion covers:
What do we mean by those words?  A simple description
If we have a recognition of being 'awake' does that lead to an enlightened life?
What makes it hard to have an enlightened life without a recognition of 'our true nature'
Two more words - The difference between 'inquiry' and 'reflection'
How different coaching approaches start from different places; what truly makes the difference
Is this relevant for the workplace? What does it offer?
How psychological safety is an innocent reverse engineering due to a misunderstanding
Some of the indicators that you might be on the path to either....
Curious - want to know more?
During the show we mentioned Helen’s post that prompted this recording. Here’s that original post
To find out about Helen’s work go to her main website where you can find out about her Wild Fig Community, private sessions and free resources Awakening and Enlightenment | Coach and Guide (wildfigsolutions.co.uk)
And for everything relating to The Complete Book of Awakening, go to its publishing website, Thoughtful Raven. There you’ll find a link through to the courses and community for the book. Thoughtful Raven – The home of practical spirituality books.
Listen to Helen on her journey back in 2019 as she starts to have realisations about the principles behind Quality of Mind in this special behind the scenes 3 part mini series
Find out more about Quality of Mind   
If you want to know more about 'becoming awake' check out our new 𝗗𝗜𝗥𝗘𝗖𝗧 𝗘𝗫𝗣𝗘𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗡𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗘𝗟𝗙 𝗜𝗡𝗤𝗨𝗜𝗥𝗬 programme, which is a simple guide you to experience it direct for you.  
Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Are We Too Comfortably Numb? Is There More to Life?

This podcast series explores the 'before psychology' game-changing understanding of the human mind that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.
This episode is a conversation with Quality of Mind colleague Kate Adey. Kate has over 20 years experience in the corporate world - as a consultant and coach. 
Have you ever noticed that spark in life has dulled, or the feeling of joy for no reason has evaporated?  Are you surviving rather than thriving? And if thriving, is it achieved by striving and grind? Many of us are innocently and invisibly 'comfortably numb'.
Sound like you?..Listen on...
The episodes covers:
How as we grow up gradually and subtly the freedom, ease, and joy can disappear from life, but we see it 'just how life is'
The indicators that you might be more 'comfortably numb' than you realised
How this is exaggerated in most organisations and workplaces
Is there an alternative?  What can we do about that?
How do we see the extraordinary in the ordinary
Maybe we have just been looking in the wrong place....
Please leave any feedback or comments on the podcast, and if you want to ask a question please do so here https://sayhi.chat/QoM - we'd love to hear from you!!
Curious - want to know more?
You can find out more about Kate and her website 
Find out more about Quality of Mind 
Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

A Real Time Quality of Mind Coaching Conversation with 3 Business Leaders

This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''before psychology'' - that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.
This episode is taken from the  WTF What The Future?! Podcast series. Where Piers was asked to have a real time coaching conversation with three business leaders Ian Parry, Helen Gillett and Andy Caulton, who were keen to learn more about Quality of Mind
 
In this episode we discuss:
The nature and benefits of the Quality of Mind approach
A mini real time direct self inquiry experiment on 'who we are' 
We've never experienced anything outside of the mind - so what?
What is the nature of reality?  What has that got to with more leadership potential
It sounds too good to be true, so ''how do I.....''
What is the flow state made of? The aperture 
How do you describe Quality of Mind, what it is and what is isn't. 
How do you sell and promote something that appears so different; are people sceptical? 
Curious - want to know more?
The WTF podcast What The Future?!   and the Future Leaders website 
Find out more about Quality of Mind 
Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

The Complete Book of Awakening -Talking to the Authors

This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''before psychology'' - that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.
Piers chats with the authors of a new wonderfully helpful book on the subject of exploring Non Duality (which forms the foundation of Quality of Mind). Helen Amery the co-author, has been a regular on the show  and she is joined by Sara Priestley to discuss how they developed 'The Complete Book of Awakening'.
In this episode we discuss:
How the book – The Complete Book of Awakening - came about
Why the book is called “Complete”
The definition of awakening
Who the book is for  -Why this isn’t a book to ‘read for gist’
Why the book removes all spiritual dogma and paradox
Why direct inquiry and logic are a powerful combination
The three levels of experience and putting them in their right order
Why our conceptual labels don’t reflect reality
Why resistance arises during an awakening inquiry and why that’s OK
Why this inquiry is your own – you have to see it for yourself – and why the outcome isn’t a life floating in bliss as many imagine it to be
Why goals of a nicer life must be put secondary to seeing your essential nature
How do you know if you’ve recognsied your essential nature – awakened?
Why awakening results in the behaviour changes that we usually ‘try’ to make happen in business
Curious - want to know more?
Go to the Thoughtful Raven website for free resources that go with the book, purchasing links for the book and journal, and links to courses and a community, as well as to get in touch with Helen and Sara.
Thoughtful Raven – The home of practical spirituality books
You can buy the book on Amazon and also The Complete Book of Awakening – Exploration Journal
Check out our other Quality of Mind podcast episodes, a curated list here
Helens initial appearance on the Quality of Mind podcast, and her experience of being coached in this understanding, and more recently talking about 'Does the Mind really work Inside Out'
Find out more about Quality of Mind 
Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Realising the need for more evolution in how organisations are led and structured

This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''before psychology'' - that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.
 
Piers talks to fellow Coach, Stephen Lock, who through his own leadership journey realised organisations are still rooted in the industrial revolution when it comes to how they manage and control themselves. They discuss the way forward....😊
 
In this episode we discuss:
The roots of our current prevailing corporate culture and leadership style 
 How ideas like non-hierarchical organizations, or different ways of having conversations have emerged, but missing the true understanding and relevance of human consciousness
How our conditioning and culture has made some areas seem a no go - and then we wake up
What do we fear losing by exploring something different? 
An organisational example of where it does work, to start from a different foundation
Do we need to reverse engineer or can we go straight there? 
Curious - want to know more?
You can find out more about Stephen and his work here  or website here
Find out more about Quality of Mind 
Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts

Wants, Desires, Resistance, and Tuning into the Optimum system. A conversation with Clare Dimond

This podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates ''before psychology'' - that can exponentially increase the performance, resourcefulness and well-being for any individual or organisation.
In this episode Piers chats with Clare Dimond a wonderful return guest to the show, and this time the topic is about how the personal mind creates a sense of seeking and wanting, and how we can tune into a 'purer' sense of evolving and creating. Clare is a skilled teacher of the understanding behind Quality of Mind, and a prolific and gifted author. 
In this episode we discuss:
What is behind all wants and desires
The red herring of the rewards in life, our peak moments - fuelling the confusion. 
The purpose of resistance - not trying to avoid it and how it is our inner conditioning made external - 
Feel and sensing not thinking about our feelings and emotions
Shifting out of identification and inevitable resistance, and how that leads to curiousity 
Deeper knowing and sensing, obviousness 
Two types of sensitivity: our fluid raw primal 'reality immersion' and our conceptual separated conditioned based sensitivity
The intelligence in how to run the body mind- the sensing and then our innocent identification to that
The natural revealing a way of supporting a body mind to its optimum 
Curious - want to know more?
You can find out more about Clare and her work here
Another episode with Clare What has this got to with how we communicate, lead and turn up at work? 
Find out more about Quality of Mind 
Subscribe to our Quality of Mind Youtube channel for a series of 2 min videos all about Quality of Mind
Check out our other episodes, a curated list here
Piers Thurston regularly writes about Quality of Mind on LinkedIn and has a large collection of articles and posts